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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2013.11.10 13:27:00 -
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Hello,
As manager of the VAERT, Vahrokh's Emergencies Relief Trust I am asking CCP to please start a charity drive to aid the victims of the terrible event in the Philippines (10,000 alredy reported dead).
We are ready, we got the money, the last time (Japan earthquake) VAERT delivered through CCP a real cash amount of $4,286!
I am being pressured by players about this (not that I needed their input about this), even historic famous ones like Amarr Citizen 155.
Please CCP let us help them, even few thousands dollars may help! |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2013.11.10 14:22:00 -
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Roxie Glitz wrote:As i am not familiar with the mechanic behind your idea, i assume we donate isk? If so, i don't have much to give but i'd be happy to donate, even if i can just afford a low million sum.
The mechanic works as follows: during "nothing is going on" times (years) I slowly gather donations from players.
When an emergency happens, CCP makes a special character available where to send PLEXes and they convert those PLEXes back into money and donate them to Red Cross or other appointed charities.
Therefore, players ISK donations usually happen outside of emergencies. Of course if an emergency happens I do a "call for arms" and a lot of people send donations at the last minute, but I don't care if I have to do 90 jumps again (finding low priced PLEXes to donate more of those), what matters is that in those poor countries, 10 dollars can EASILY save a life and 4,000 dollars are a lot of lives that may be saved!
Imagine this: you play the ONE game where you can save REAL lives just by playing! |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2013.11.10 14:28:00 -
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Obunagawe wrote:Riot Girl wrote:Obunagawe wrote:Please don't CCP. Don't kill EVE to save the phillipines. And you WILL kill EVE by increasing PLEX price much more. How selfish. People are dying and all you care about is how much you have to mine to keep your account active. Confirming EVE is a game of kind and selfless people.
Please don't start some flame war or troll on this thread. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2013.11.10 18:05:00 -
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I truly appreciate the many friends who wish to join me calling CCP to start a charity campaign! And this is really an emegency that hit hard! |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2013.11.10 18:08:00 -
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Estella Osoka wrote:Screw this crap. You want to help out the Philippines. Donate your time and/or money to one of the relief organizations. A list can be found here: Typhoon Haiyan Relief Organizations
Follow me:
1) It's perfectly possible to BOTH donate money and also participate in the PLEX for charity campaign, the two things are absolutely compatible.
2) Many could never send $4,000 as donation but as collective in this game we CAN and it adds nicely to the single person donations. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2013.11.10 19:22:00 -
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By the way if anyone wants to send ISK (I'd wait for CCP to confirm they'll do this charity drive first tbh), they should send it to the appropriate corp not to me. Same for contracted stuff. The corp is VAERT.
Step by step to do it in few seconds:
1) Copy and paste VAERT in a client chat. 2) Right click and link as corporation. 3) If you want to be very sure to have selected the correct corporation, you can click it. It's called Vahrokh's Emergencies Relief Trust. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2013.11.10 22:36:00 -
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Lost Hamster wrote:+4 PLEX on contract.
You contracted them in an inaccessible sov 0.0 station.
Considering the client is only allowing me to reverse-redeem them back to the same station, I don't see how I may get them. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
4531
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Posted - 2013.11.10 23:24:00 -
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Nam Dnilb wrote:Estella Osoka wrote:Screw this crap. You want to help out the Philippines. Donate your time and/or money to one of the relief organizations. A list can be found here: Typhoon Haiyan Relief Organizations This. They need help now, not pretend money handed out by a company with a less than stellar track record of organising things.
Hello,
let's do this.
I will try make CCP increase their PR record by organizing this.
Even if CCP won't authorize this drive, we - that is me and you - will give the example by donating $100 each to the Philippines Red Cross or Doctors Without Borders - Philippines at your choice.
I have written $100 because that's the minimum you can specify in the Red Cross selector.
Are you game?
Show not CCP's, but your own track record. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2013.11.10 23:29:00 -
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Nanatoa wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Lost Hamster wrote:+4 PLEX on contract. You contracted them in an inaccessible sov 0.0 station. Considering the client is only allowing me to reverse-redeem them back to the same station, I don't see how I may get them. Take them and I'll swap them for PLEX in Jita. (I contract you 4 PLEX in Jita and you contract me the PLEX in whereever.)
Ok deal! It'll be my VAERT CEO alt doing that (Ishkahunta).
I'd love to have PLEXes in easily reached (read: contiguous high sec) locations for two reasons:
1) Don't ask me why, but for Japan there were logistic issues on the CCP employee who had to pick the PLEXes. Considering if the initiative starts we'll be in a hurry, I'd rather avoid the guy being unable to pick the PLEXes in locked stations and have to wait till some other CCP programmer force-unlocks it with some code patch or whatever.
2) I always produce a video that proves the whole process has been transparently and diligently done. Having the PLEXes well visible in the local items hanger when I create the contract certainly makes it as easy and transparent possible. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2013.11.10 23:48:00 -
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Nanatoa,
I am logged in game, please convo me on this character (I can't find you online). |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
4539
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Posted - 2013.11.11 00:04:00 -
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Nanatoa wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Nanatoa,
I am logged in game, please convo me on this character (I can't find you online). I put up a contract for 4 PLEX in Jita to the character Ishkahunta shortly after you posted. Just put up the 0.0 PLEX in a 3 day or longer contract and I'll accept it later.
I have sent you the first 2, please accept them so I can send the other 2. They are in different stations, the alt has no contracting skills so I can only have 1 outstanding contract. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
4540
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Posted - 2013.11.11 00:35:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Nanatoa wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Nanatoa,
I am logged in game, please convo me on this character (I can't find you online). I put up a contract for 4 PLEX in Jita to the character Ishkahunta shortly after you posted. Just put up the 0.0 PLEX in a 3 day or longer contract and I'll accept it later. I have sent you the first 2, please accept them so I can send the other 2. They are in different stations, the alt has no contracting skills so I can only have 1 outstanding contract.
I have trained the alt with the skills to create more contracts so now you have all PLEXes contracted up.
Contract 1 screenshot. Contract 2 screenshot.
I have redacted part of the station names.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2013.11.11 00:47:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Nam Dnilb wrote:Estella Osoka wrote:Screw this crap. You want to help out the Philippines. Donate your time and/or money to one of the relief organizations. A list can be found here: Typhoon Haiyan Relief Organizations This. They need help now, not pretend money handed out by a company with a less than stellar track record of organising things. Hello, let's do this. I will try make CCP increase their PR record by organizing this. Even if CCP won't authorize this drive, we - that is me and you - will give the example by donating $100 each to the Philippines Red Cross or Doctors Without Borders - Philippines at your choice. I have written $100 because that's the minimum you can specify in the Red Cross selector. Are you game? Show not CCP's, but your own track record. My father teached me: "always put your money where your tongue is".
So, challenge accepted, mate?
I did my duty, I am waiting for you now. I know it's unelegant to post donations but this is not a show off, I have to prove it's real, we are in EvE after all.
First round of proofs: screenshots. Second round of proofs: video of it being done, I'll probably be able to post it tomorrow (now it's late here).
Step 1 Philippines Red Cross donation page. While I was there I picked the largest available option, but you, Nam Dnilb, feel free to choose another.
Step 2 Tabbing to see how much 10,000 Philippines Pesos are actually worth. I left copious examples in case somebody else wants to copy the donation in their currency.
Pane 1 Pane 2
Step 3 Actual donation
Step 4 Donation complete
So, now, everybody knows that it's plenty possible BOTH to donate to VAERT AND donate in RL. If I could do it, so you can. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2013.11.11 00:48:00 -
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Estella Osoka wrote:People do not need a donation a week or 2 from now. They need help now. Go down to your local Red Cross, donate some blood, plasma, can food, blankets, money, or ask them how you can help. Get off your computers and go.
Awaiting your Red Cross donation receipt mate. Money / blood / blankets talk. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2013.11.11 00:52:00 -
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Kudos to:
Lost Hamster and Careby
For having put money where their mouth is. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2013.11.11 01:02:00 -
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Rhivre also put money where her mouth is. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2013.11.11 01:13:00 -
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Beware, those who send donations please be extremely aware of the fund's Articles of Incorporation and Bylaws available by reading the prospectus.
In order to make it easy for CCP to check what's being done in the donations account, there's a clause that forbids delivering back away anything that is donated. This means that if CCP won't (for any reason) do the charity drive, those donations can't be given back and will sit there till the next charity drive. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2013.11.11 01:18:00 -
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MatrixSkye2 Mk2, Rykker Bow and RAW23 have put their money where their mouth is.
2013-11-11: 2 | PLEX | Donor name: MatrixSkye2 Mk2 2013-11-11: 4 | PLEX | Donor name: Rykker Bow 2013-11-11: 1 | PLEX | Donor name: Raw23 |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2013.11.11 02:45:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
So, challenge accepted, mate?
I did my duty, I am waiting for you now. I know it's unelegant to post donations but this is not a show off, I have to prove it's real, we are in EvE after all.
First round of proofs: screenshots. Second round of proofs: video of it being done, I'll probably be able to post it tomorrow (now it's late here).
Here's the second round: Video proof of payment.
Now, Nam Dnilb, it's really your turn. 
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
4555
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Posted - 2013.11.11 07:19:00 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote:Just in case you folks didn't know, cash you donate today doesn't go straight to the current disaster du jour. Typically, charities run one disaster behind when it comes to funding. Today's cash goes in the pot, what was collected last time goes to the current relief effort.
Honestly, the best type of disaster aid you can provide is donating blood. You donate blood in your area, it has a follow-on ripple effect down the line, freeing up resources to send out to (current disaster). Direct cash into the general fund is also excellent. Material goods are almost worthless, TBH. Nobody wants your old socks.
My personal fav charity to help is Doctors Without Borders. Great guys and gals who do a ton of good out there.
If I understand correctly, you tell to donate blood because donating cash won't go immediately to the populations in need.
The next paragraph however you tell that if you donate blood it is going to have a ripple effect down the line. That is, it won't go immediately to the populations in need.
Now, while I admire those who would donate blood and similar, in this specific contingency money has way easier "logistics" getting over there than blood and similar. I don't think that i.e. 5 flagons of blood are going to get all the costs and efforts to get taken and sent over thousands miles, whereas a guy living at the Philippines would be the one able to donate blood that shall get where it's needed.
In the end pick a choice, but do it. I have picked money as I live so far (Canary Islands) that anything else won't get there. Paypal sent money will. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2013.11.11 13:21:00 -
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Here's the official text of the in game petition to CCP. I have modified it so it's not a post of an in game ticket, but it faithfully keeps the spirit of the request.
Hello,
Some days ago I have publicly (on the forums) received a reply from CCP Eterne stating that CCP is still up for charity initiatives.
Now, the Philippines disaster happened and it's THE time to start a "PLEX for good" charity initiative.
I and others have donated some RL money to the Philippines Red Cross but more can be done.
I am the manager of the VAERT (Vahrokh's Emergengies Relief Trust) whose only reason to exist is to provide lots of PLEXes in case of CCP charity drives.
This charity, whose launch thread is located here is running since 2011 and has delivered $4,286 in the PLEX for Japan initiative. CCP CEO Hilmar even featured VAERT during a past Fanfest.
A quite popular launch thread about this initiative is currently running in General Discussion.
We are here to help, please let us help Philippines now!
Signed, Vaerah Vahrokha and many other players
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2013.11.11 14:54:00 -
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Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:...or we could just donate some money or blood to the red cross rather than trying to turn every tragedy into a marketing ploy disguised as a social event? It's not hard to donate almost anything to them and they are the boots on the ground. http://www.redcross.org.ph/donate
In case you missed it in the previous page, I have given a practical example of donating ALSO for the Red Cross.
Actually, you could give the good example by joining me and posting here your RL donation receipt.
Give the example, not empty words. Empty words don't help anyone. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2013.11.11 16:57:00 -
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StudleyManiac wrote:Excuse me for playing Devils Advocate here but this sounds like it could be abused way too easy.
Is there any accountability? You say you collect donations throughout the year and IF a disaster happens you donate the isk to the character that CCP created. What happens to the isk if there was no disaster that made the news?
How much do you keep to yourself? This is EVE after all... Scams are part of the game... is this a scam?
With no accountability You will get no iskies from me and about accountability... is Somer Blink going to be the "Trusted party"?
After all they are doing a service to the community.
You are welcome, this is EvE after all. I am not going to bring in details about my years records, current facts matter.
- First of all, VAERT already have got the ISK to donate. Actually, VAERT is asking to give them away. Therefore a big scam motivator does not exist to begin with.
- There are special clauses (linked earlier in this very thread) written by CCP. Basically scamming on these things is worse than scamming on characters sales.
- When disasters don't happen, the fund actually begins to work. Donations trickle in over the years, the fund exists exactly to orderly hold and accrue residual ISK people feel free to place somewhere for a possible future charity drive.
- When the disaster happens, then the accrued ISK are converted into PLEX and forwarded to a special CCP character that takes them and turns them into real money to send to RL charities.
- The trusted party is myself. Feel free to browse my records on Market Discussions to see why and how.
Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2013.11.12 07:25:00 -
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Could we pretty please get an answer?
There's people dying out there.
Despite having sent RL currency to Red Cross Philippines, I feel very bad holding thousands of dollars on behalf of many people and doing nothing. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2013.11.12 13:49:00 -
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Please before doing drastic stuff like selling characters, T2 BPOs and whatever check that CCP actually does the Philippines charity drive.
As I have written earlier, the bylaws of the charity forbid to ever take away a single ISK it gets (100% goes only to CCP). So, in the event CCP won't reply or won't do anything, I could not reimburse you. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2013.11.12 16:30:00 -
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At a certain point CCP opened to direct ISK charity transters. In that case they'd do very good for the game, because the charity drive would not stress PLEXes but would act as much needed ISK sink. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2013.11.12 17:27:00 -
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Anyway if I have to be honest, I'd have appreciated a reply.
If I created a troll thread talking of boobs I'd have 2-3 dev replies by now.
Why not for an humanitarian initiative? Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2013.11.12 19:21:00 -
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Samroski wrote:Hilmar is famous for letting dust settle before addressing issues... we need another 40something page threadnought to reassure CCP that the problem hasn't gone away by itself.
We can't let this fade off.
It's real people who are not getting an help, not some imaginary spacepixels.
Real people are dying and we sit here, unable to do what HAS to be done! Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
4634
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:39:00 -
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Please take your politics into a separate thread.
It's not like by sending money we are doing them worse than sending nothing because [insert here colorful reason].
I leave to the world governors the task to implement sweeping changes that could change a nation's destiny.
I am focused to one task: provide immediate relief to those who are dying for lack of food and water TODAY.
On a separate matter, more people are sending donations:
2013-11-12: 2 x PLEX | Donor name: Zappity Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
4634
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Posted - 2013.11.12 21:07:00 -
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A newborn player has just sent 10M to the charity: probably all he had. He also opted to remain anonymous.
I am going to send him 100M off my personal wallet for the gesture!
/bows Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
4634
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Posted - 2013.11.13 02:47:00 -
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This is the link to the CCP twitter response. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2013.11.13 13:16:00 -
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Krashion wrote:still waiting on CCP on a side note, I may just donate the bo amount on my auction myself and cancel my char auction, had a few ******* emails which make me despair with the eve community.
Sale cancelled and 10b donation sent
Thank you very much!
10B donation confirmed in game.
P.S. please don't send ISK to me but to VAERT. I'd rather keep accounting simple, because VAERT MUST be completely transparent for any CCP inspection.
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Solaris Ecladia wrote: Second, by doing this, CCP and you promote EVE via charity and can help bring people into the game.
That's true.
Imagine monetizing the positive PR CCP would get just with some articles on some important MMO websites: "EvE Online, the only MMO so real that players may help Philippines!"
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2013.11.14 08:07:00 -
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More donations are trickling in, I'll update the list when I get back home. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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